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hello everybody and welcome to a new

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on my youtube channel

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at least for tonight

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i probably will do more of these

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and

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i have spoken about this story before on

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my live streams but

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i wanted to go back and try to remember

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as many details as i could

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write down some notes and then

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tell you guys what happened

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this happened back in 1996

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and my first ex-wife and i i have two

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ex-wives

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not seven as some people on twitter have

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suspected

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and the first ex-wife is a natural

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psychic and we somehow found out about

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these workshops or classes that were

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taking place

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about an hour north of tampa in florida

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where we were living i think it was

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newport richie where

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the house was where we went for these

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workshops and newport richie's on

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the west coast of florida at southwest

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florida

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both of us

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were interested in ufos and metaphysics

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and belonged to the same metaphysical

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church in tampa

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i don't remember how we found out about

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the workshops but

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they were run by an older woman named

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maria

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who claimed to be a psychic i never had

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a reading with her so i don't know you

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know if she was legitimate or not

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but besides maria

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who owned the house

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there was another person at these

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workshops

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and his name was isha

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which was not his real name i believe

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isha is like means word of god or

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something and you could look it up maybe

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i'm wrong about that

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it's

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i-s-h-a or i-s-s-h-a

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and i believe his real name was manny or

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victor

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and his big claim was he was a palladian

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walk-in soul

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and basically what that is

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allegedly of course is

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this palladian soul

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enters the human body

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and replaces the human soul and then the

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human soul

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goes off to the pleiades and parties for

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the rest of eternity in his or her new

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palladium body the old switcheroo so

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that's basically the premise the souls

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switch bodies

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uh and by the way palladians from the

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pleiades star system they're human

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looking blondes

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uh just like the billy meyer case which

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most people realize or believe is

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so those are those are the alleged

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palladians

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did i believe that he was a walk-in soul

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i heard about this i don't know i can't

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remember

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what i heard but i wanted i probably

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heard about it at my church my

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metaphysical church and so i wanted to

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check it out i'm like all right let's

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see what the guy's all about something

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new something different a little road

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trip an hour north of tampa so yeah

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and i was new to the subject of ufos not

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too long before that i mean i had some

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interest when i was younger but this is

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when i really started diving deep

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not too long before these workshops i

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had really gone down down the rabbit

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hole i had really gone down the rabbit

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hole and i'm was reading so many

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different books

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on ufos and related subjects so i was

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getting myself up to speed um and at the

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time

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this was 96 so bringers of the dawn

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which was written was written in 1992

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and the follow-up book earth in 1994

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they were written by barbara marciniak

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who

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supposedly was channeling the palladians

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so those two books were very popular

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around 1996 in the new age community so

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it's kind of like you know i heard some

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guy was a palladian walk in seoul and i

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had already heard about these books i'm

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like yeah let me check it out

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ladies palladians everything it's all

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the happy et's the human looking et's

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that are here to help us so i said what

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the heck

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so we went to the first class

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i think it was 15

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each for the class and maybe 15 or 20

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people showed up

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and something i'll never forget

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we were told to bring a snack some sort

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of dessert

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and that turns out that

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the snacks were the best part of the

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workshops

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because some people went out of their

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way and went the extra mile and made

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homemade desserts

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that were really good um and this one

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dessert

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26 years later stands out in my mind

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somebody made this german chocolate cake

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that was so damn good i remember taking

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home a piece i'm like can i please take

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some of this home

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so yeah that was

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the thing i remember most about those

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workshops

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my god

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the class featured

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all of us sitting around in a semicircle

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talking about different subjects related

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to ufos and isha would lead the

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discussion and other folks would chime

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in with their thoughts and experiences

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my ex and i mostly listened since

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you know you're new to the group you

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don't really want to talk too much and

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to tell you the truth i don't remember

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if i did chime in a lot i just don't

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remember

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time was about the denver international

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airport and how it has this

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public art these murals that are

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connected to the new world order and

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it's

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showing the future and how they're going

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to control us and put us in these

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concentration camps and

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i've been to the airport the the art is

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weird it's very

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it's very

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dark and

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features children and coffins it's not

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really something you would expect in an

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airport but i don't think it has

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anything to do with

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our future

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under the control of the new world order

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and some of the information was coming

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from in the class

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these two young women were supposedly

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using a ouija board and coming up with

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information on the airport and how it

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was going to be used in the future and

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blah blah blah and then another thing

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that isha talked about which i found

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interesting first time i ever heard this

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was he said some of the intelligences

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behind ufos

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feed off of the negative emotions of

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humanity which

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since then i've heard it from tom de

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long and then in the past rudolph

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steiner wrote about it carlos castaneda

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wrote about it in his books other folks

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have written about archons

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you know and then we have paul eno who

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does amazing work who i'd love to

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interview hopefully soon he talks about

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we're dealing with parasites who are

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feeding off of our negative emotions so

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yeah the ideas are out there but i first

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heard about it in 1996 through isha or

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through one of the classmates i don't

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remember exactly who said it

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i don't know if any of that is true

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about our emotions i know a lot of

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people think it's crazy talk

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but i find it interesting and you know

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our thoughts can affect random number

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generators um so maybe there's something

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tangible there maybe our thoughts are

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edible tasty negative human emotions

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and this is when we start getting into

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territory that really raised my eyebrows

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and isha claimed

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and like i said i'm trying to remember

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this i could be wrong but i think he

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claimed that he wrote on palladian

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spaceships

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and he was taking pictures of other

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palladian spaceships from one to the

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other and he had these really great

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and they were really clear whether or

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not i'm remembering that correctly

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either way

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as far as taking a picture from one

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craft to the other i'm not positive i

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think he said that but either way

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he did say he had pictures of ufos

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palladian spaceships and he showed us

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the pictures lots of different pictures

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thinking

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those are really cool

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but they're probably too good to be true

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um i also remember thinking

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sorry

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i thought i thought they were too good

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we also still enjoyed the classes you

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know i'm like all right

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these are probably fake but we enjoy the

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class

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so let's keep going

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especially since at the end of each

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class

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he would lead us in these guided

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meditations for about an hour

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and we would chant home

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as a group and it was really powerful

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and we also had meditations where he

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would lead us and try to get us to

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access our previous lifetimes which i

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was familiar with at the time i'm pretty

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sure i had read

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many lives many masters by brian weiss

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so you know let's try to connect with

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past life reincarnation you know and

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after both of those type types of

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meditations we would go around the

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circle and if you wanted to you could

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share your experience which i hated

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you didn't really have a choice because

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of the peer pressure i seem to remember

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not really feeling like i could say pass

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i don't want to talk about it although i

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think you could have um

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so that was but those meditations to

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this day those are some of the best

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guided meditations i've ever taken part

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fantastic

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so there's nothing negative i could say

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about that part of the class or even

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most of the class

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so anyway

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we were going once a week and we went

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maybe five or six times

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and then somewhere along the way i

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people weren't questioning

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anything isha would say

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whatever he said

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whatever he claimed

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nobody would bat an eye nobody would

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question it and me of course i had

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questions about a lot of things i

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probably kept it inside because i

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realized nobody was asking questions

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but and i'll get i'll get to the thing

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that pushed me over over the top in a

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second

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um one class somebody claimed they

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received telepathic messages that

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the ufos were going to show up

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at 11 p.m or midnight i don't remember

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what it was i remember it was late and

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it was a work night and i really did not

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want to stay but i'm thinking you know

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if i leave and they have this amazing

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sighting i'm gonna be pissed off

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so we stayed

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and

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i'm like what the hell let's see if we

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see anything

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and what we saw was absolutely nothing

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now the people next to us were like oh

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there it is there it is oh my god oh my

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god i'm thinking i'm thinking to myself

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what the hell are you talking about

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there's nothing there

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of course now

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present day i've heard you know stories

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and allegations that the intelligence

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behind ufos can affect perceptions

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our perceptions and make one person see

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a ufo and the next person not see the

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ufo supposedly the manager of bass i'm

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thinking that was colin kelleher

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had spoken about how

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you can't tell if somebody really saw a

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ufo since they can affect our perception

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so you have to measure the human readout

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system which is the immune system to see

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if there was any effect on the body so

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if they both had a at some sort of

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effect on their body then they both were

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you know in front of the ufo but that

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doesn't mean they both saw it because it

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can affect our perceptions so anyway

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do i think that's what was going on with

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isha and the people in the backyard who

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were claiming to see ufos

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no i do not think that's what was going

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on but i think what was going on is they

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were just trying to make isha happy um

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by claiming to see ufos and then

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you know they didn't want people to wait

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around for two hours and then not see

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anything

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so to make sure people didn't feel like

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they wasted their time they were saying

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look ufos ufos

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a lot of these folks had problems in

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their personal lives and

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i think they were attracted to this type

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of class

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and leader in the hopes that it would

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help them better themselves you know he

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was going to help them better their

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lives or themselves

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just like you know when you go to a

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metaphysical church or when i would go

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to a metaphysical church or any church

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you would see people

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that you're always going to get people

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who are going through a rough patch in

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their life and they're they're searching

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for something that'll change things

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so they gravitate towards a church or an

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organization or a group that they think

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will help them

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once again i was having questions about

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various things that esha would talk

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about

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my main question i you know my main

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question was

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your photos

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they look ridiculous and i didn't say it

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like that to him but i did finally i'm

370
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like i gotta ask i gotta bring it up i

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said

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something something i had a question

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about his photos

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and he reacted really defensive and

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really negative

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right then i pulled my ex aside and i

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said

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you know what i don't think we're coming

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back i didn't like that response and i'm

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the only person that's asking any

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questions

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and his response was not good i'm sorry

383
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and i also remember thinking at the time

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this feels like a cult

385
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you know i didn't think it was a cult

386
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not at all you could come and go as you

387
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please

388
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but the fact that nobody questioned

389
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isha that was really bothering me

390
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and when finally somebody did me

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he didn't like it

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so i don't remember what my ex said but

393
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i'm pretty sure she did not put up a

394
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fight and so after that night we never

395
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now looking back

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it was a great experience i don't regret

397
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anything about it i do remember speaking

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to one guy about my feeling of it being

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cult-like

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i don't remember if i used that word but

401
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he was not receptive to it so i just

402
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dropped it

403
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now if i could go back in time right now

404
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and speak to those folks i would say

405
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listen

406
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you need to get away deception is never

407
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okay and what's going on here isn't

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a healthy relationship between isha and

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the group

410
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you know elevating someone to guru like

411
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status has gone on in the ufo community

412
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for decades

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and there's various people who are

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selling their information

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classes their excursions

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and some of those folks make a lot of

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money doing it i'm not gonna name names

418
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you know who i'm talking about

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there's some of the bigger names in the

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ufo community uh when louis elizondo

421
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talks about demolishing the ufo

422
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community i think he's referring

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to the problems cause problems caused by

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people like that

425
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and their fans and followers believe

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everything they say without question

427
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and defend them to the death on social

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media

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what they'll say is listen my guy has

430
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the truth

431
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but

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even if it's not all true i really enjoy

433
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his material and his videos and i've

434
00:16:26,069 --> 00:16:24,320
seen that up close i've seen

435
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somebody watching something and i'm

436
00:16:30,230 --> 00:16:28,000
listening and i'm like you do realize

437
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this is nonsense right and they'll say

438
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oh i know i know but

439
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i like it it's enjoyable so it's like

440
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there's really nothing i can say when

441
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somebody says that

442
00:16:42,710 --> 00:16:41,199
now there are also people online who

443
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have had

444
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multiple

445
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and engaged but i feel is they engaged

446
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in what i feel is deception by

447
00:16:56,949 --> 00:16:54,079
inflating or making up their credential

448
00:16:59,350 --> 00:16:56,959
credentials lying about who they know

449
00:17:02,710 --> 00:16:59,360
making up stories that serve to placate

450
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a certain faction in the ufo community

451
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those folks also have their fans and

452
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their fans refuse to question them at

453
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all

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and i use fans lightly supporters uh

455
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you know they have people who like what

456
00:17:19,909 --> 00:17:17,280
they talk about they like you know

457
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what they represent and but these people

458
00:17:24,789 --> 00:17:22,160
will not question that person and it's

459
00:17:27,429 --> 00:17:24,799
it's disturbing to me to see that

460
00:17:29,430 --> 00:17:27,439
and some of these folks don't take money

461
00:17:30,470 --> 00:17:29,440
so what's their purpose in deceiving

462
00:17:33,270 --> 00:17:30,480
people

463
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i can only speculate that they get some

464
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sort of fat satisfaction out of fooling

465
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people i don't know

466
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you know i can't get inside i can't get

467
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inside this i cannot get inside the head

468
00:17:46,950 --> 00:17:44,559
of somebody like that because i've i

469
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can't think like that because i'm really

470
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honest i i don't deceive people and i

471
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can't imagine somebody just doing that

472
00:17:54,549 --> 00:17:53,039
so it really bothers me

473
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you know and if you talk to the

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supporters of some of the folks who

475
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engage in deception they'll say well my

476
00:18:02,950 --> 00:18:00,480
experience with that person has been

477
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very positive you know

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that person their information really

479
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helped me

480
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i do get that i get it

481
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but

482
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some folks will just refuse to admit

483
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that they were fooled or they were duped

484
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or they would lie to

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or they were lied to

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and i i understand people have their own

487
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personal experiences that may be

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positive like i had with isha and you

489
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know i enjoyed the class but there are

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other people being deceived

491
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or manipulated and in some cases

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emotionally damaged by the deception

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and to me and i would think to everybody

494
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that's never okay never

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so

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the classes that i went to

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somebody said to me right now hey isha's

498
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having a class tonight he's in vegas and

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he's giving a two-hour guided meditation

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i would probably pay 20 bucks

501
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one last time and just go for the

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meditation just one class

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you know so i understand where some

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folks are coming from

505
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as far as you know

506
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they still think positively

507
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upon a person who i think is engaging in

508
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deception

509
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but my advice to anybody who follows

510
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those folks would be

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stop following them and don't

512
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communicate with them

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if they're deceiving people

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that's not okay and if you can't

515
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question their background or their

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qualifications and get

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proof about their claims

518
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that's not a person you want to be

519
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around

520
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sorry it's not

521
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so that's my story hopefully you guys

522
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enjoyed it

523
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um i like i said i don't regret going to

524
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those classes at all i'm glad i did it

525
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i'm also proud of myself for being the

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only person to ask a question and

527
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question his photos because

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if you guys had seen these photos right

529
00:19:56,310 --> 00:19:53,919
away you would

530
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say those scream

531
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fake

532
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i think he had him analyzed later and

533
00:20:03,909 --> 00:20:02,159
strings were found

534
00:20:06,390 --> 00:20:03,919
attached to these

535
00:20:07,990 --> 00:20:06,400
probably mob models

536
00:20:10,230 --> 00:20:08,000
i'm not a hundred percent sure about

537
00:20:11,510 --> 00:20:10,240
that but i'm pretty sure

538
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so

539
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there was a guy randolph winters who

540
00:20:19,190 --> 00:20:16,080
wrote a book the palladian mission

541
00:20:20,950 --> 00:20:19,200
i think he covered isha a little bit

542
00:20:23,909 --> 00:20:20,960
um also

543
00:20:25,669 --> 00:20:23,919
randolph winters wrote about billy meyer

544
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like i said most people feel like cases

545
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bs

546
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and then there was another giant red

547
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flag which at the time i didn't realize

548
00:20:33,430 --> 00:20:32,720
was a red flag because i didn't know him

549
00:20:35,350 --> 00:20:33,440
but

550
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sean david morton

551
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who just got out of prison

552
00:20:42,870 --> 00:20:40,720
for fraud you know for defrauding people

553
00:20:45,029 --> 00:20:42,880
he wrote an entire article article in

554
00:20:46,710 --> 00:20:45,039
his newsletter about isha and at the

555
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time i didn't know who sean david morton

556
00:20:50,149 --> 00:20:48,480
was and i didn't realize he was not

557
00:20:51,430 --> 00:20:50,159
credible to put him right to put it

558
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lately

559
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um

560
00:20:56,390 --> 00:20:54,480
you know this was 26 years ago and i i

561
00:20:58,870 --> 00:20:56,400
had just

562
00:21:00,870 --> 00:20:58,880
did my deep dive into ufos so i was

563
00:21:02,630 --> 00:21:00,880
really naive about a lot of stuff i

564
00:21:05,270 --> 00:21:02,640
believed almost everything i read

565
00:21:07,510 --> 00:21:05,280
including a lot of channeled books

566
00:21:12,310 --> 00:21:07,520
i had zero discernment

567
00:21:15,669 --> 00:21:13,830
i didn't believe the guy was a walking

568
00:21:17,350 --> 00:21:15,679
soul i didn't believe isha was a walking

569
00:21:18,390 --> 00:21:17,360
soul and i also didn't believe the

570
00:21:19,430 --> 00:21:18,400
photos

571
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and

572
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you know

573
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all that was fun to think about

574
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but that's that's not why i went to the

575
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classes i went because i was just

576
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curious at first and then like i said

577
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fun to think about until i realized

578
00:21:35,029 --> 00:21:32,240
deception was going on and people were

579
00:21:37,110 --> 00:21:35,039
being duped and money was being made

580
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um

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i think a few years after maybe maybe

582
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not a few years maybe a year or maybe

583
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even several months after we attempted

584
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to stop attending those classes

585
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i heard isha had changed his name to

586
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arkon

587
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and he was on some european speaking

588
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workshop tour

589
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with maria

590
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i seem to remember hearing also that it

591
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did not go well so

592
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take that for what it's worth

593
00:22:09,110 --> 00:22:05,360
my advice just be careful who you get

594
00:22:13,830 --> 00:22:11,430
the next live stream i'm doing is sunday

595
00:22:16,870 --> 00:22:13,840
if all goes well with uh chase williams

596
00:22:19,669 --> 00:22:16,880
the man who leaked wilson davis on to

597
00:22:21,669 --> 00:22:19,679
imger a few years ago and then i'm gonna

598
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also will have michael vi with me which

599
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those two guys are gonna get along

600
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really well

601
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so i we're going to cover a lot of

602
00:22:31,909 --> 00:22:29,440
ground i also want to cover the work of

603
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bill bankston who does work uh healing

604
00:22:37,029 --> 00:22:34,799
mice of cancer it's it's amazing to me

605
00:22:38,789 --> 00:22:37,039
that with all the data bankston has it

606
00:22:40,870 --> 00:22:38,799
gets ignored by people in the ufo

607
00:22:42,789 --> 00:22:40,880
community because healing is just you

608
00:22:44,950 --> 00:22:42,799
know a bridge too far from many people

609
00:22:47,029 --> 00:22:44,960
but you know a lot of people in the ufo

610
00:22:49,430 --> 00:22:47,039
community are pissed off that

611
00:22:52,070 --> 00:22:49,440
other mainstream folks and scientists

612
00:22:53,909 --> 00:22:52,080
ignore ufos because you know they won't

613
00:22:55,909 --> 00:22:53,919
even look at the data they won't even

614
00:22:57,190 --> 00:22:55,919
look at the reports well

615
00:23:00,470 --> 00:22:57,200
they're doing the same thing with

616
00:23:02,149 --> 00:23:00,480
bankston but bankston has a ton of data

617
00:23:04,070 --> 00:23:02,159
lots of laboratories around the country

618
00:23:06,470 --> 00:23:04,080
he's done his studies with the rats not

619
00:23:08,470 --> 00:23:06,480
rats sorry mice he's done his

620
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experiments with mice with cancer and i

621
00:23:12,470 --> 00:23:10,000
have zero doubt that the mice are

622
00:23:14,789 --> 00:23:12,480
getting healed using his method which i

623
00:23:17,830 --> 00:23:14,799
will i need to do a whole show on and i

624
00:23:20,549 --> 00:23:17,840
i will do my best to interview bankston

625
00:23:22,630 --> 00:23:20,559
so many interviews i want to do so much

626
00:23:24,549 --> 00:23:22,640
so little time you know limited time

627
00:23:26,549 --> 00:23:24,559
because i also do my blog

628
00:23:28,149 --> 00:23:26,559
and i also do twitter if i just did

629
00:23:29,190 --> 00:23:28,159
youtube i could do interviews all the

630
00:23:30,789 --> 00:23:29,200
time but

631
00:23:32,549 --> 00:23:30,799
i think the blog is important even

632
00:23:34,630 --> 00:23:32,559
though it takes me forever to do a

633
00:23:37,270 --> 00:23:34,640
transcript which i'm working on

634
00:23:39,430 --> 00:23:37,280
nolan on tucker carlson which the

635
00:23:42,470 --> 00:23:39,440
transcript is taking forever because i

636
00:23:44,310 --> 00:23:42,480
add so much to the transcript links and

637
00:23:46,149 --> 00:23:44,320
different excerpts that pop into my head

638
00:23:48,310 --> 00:23:46,159
that are connected to what the person is

639
00:23:51,269 --> 00:23:48,320
saying so

640
00:23:52,870 --> 00:23:51,279
yeah so i need to do more audio like

641
00:23:54,950 --> 00:23:52,880
this to update you guys on what's going

642
00:23:57,110 --> 00:23:54,960
on in the ufo community right now people

643
00:23:59,269 --> 00:23:57,120
are claiming there's big information ufo

644
00:24:01,269 --> 00:23:59,279
information coming out next week i

645
00:24:03,029 --> 00:24:01,279
haven't heard anything myself

646
00:24:05,190 --> 00:24:03,039
some folks think it it's ross

647
00:24:07,669 --> 00:24:05,200
coldheart's new documentary australian

648
00:24:09,350 --> 00:24:07,679
former 60 minutes investigative reporter

649
00:24:11,029 --> 00:24:09,360
he's a new documentary coming out and

650
00:24:12,870 --> 00:24:11,039
supposedly he might have interviewed

651
00:24:14,950 --> 00:24:12,880
somebody in one of the legacy ufo

652
00:24:16,710 --> 00:24:14,960
programs i would hope it would be the

653
00:24:19,110 --> 00:24:16,720
crash retrieval program but that's

654
00:24:21,510 --> 00:24:19,120
speculation by everybody involved

655
00:24:23,590 --> 00:24:21,520
whitley strieber has said he also heard

656
00:24:25,510 --> 00:24:23,600
you know something was coming

657
00:24:27,190 --> 00:24:25,520
various people said something is coming

658
00:24:28,710 --> 00:24:27,200
all right well i don't know about it but

659
00:24:29,590 --> 00:24:28,720
i hope something is coming we'll see

660
00:24:31,510 --> 00:24:29,600
though

661
00:24:33,669 --> 00:24:31,520
i want to see another 60 minutes report

662
00:24:35,430 --> 00:24:33,679
where they touch on crash retrievals i

663
00:24:37,269 --> 00:24:35,440
also want to see another new york times

664
00:24:39,110 --> 00:24:37,279
report where they actually get to put in

665
00:24:41,750 --> 00:24:39,120
their article what was taken out last

666
00:24:43,269 --> 00:24:41,760
time in their 2020 crash retrieval

667
00:24:45,669 --> 00:24:43,279
article where

668
00:24:47,909 --> 00:24:45,679
one of the writers involved was livid

669
00:24:49,830 --> 00:24:47,919
after the editors took out the meat of

670
00:24:51,269 --> 00:24:49,840
their article and they were working on

671
00:24:53,110 --> 00:24:51,279
wilson davis

672
00:24:55,750 --> 00:24:53,120
so

673
00:24:57,909 --> 00:24:55,760
one last thing eric davis has worked for

674
00:24:59,669 --> 00:24:57,919
multiple decades chasing down the crash

675
00:25:02,149 --> 00:24:59,679
retrieval program when he was on michael

676
00:25:04,230 --> 00:25:02,159
schmerkana's show on cnn

677
00:25:07,830 --> 00:25:04,240
melon basically said yeah you know he

678
00:25:09,590 --> 00:25:07,840
was melon was asked about retrieval of

679
00:25:11,350 --> 00:25:09,600
non-human craft i don't remember the

680
00:25:13,430 --> 00:25:11,360
exact wording right now but

681
00:25:15,029 --> 00:25:13,440
mellon said yeah eric gave them enough

682
00:25:18,390 --> 00:25:15,039
information that that should be taken

683
00:25:19,990 --> 00:25:18,400
seriously so now it's in the ndaa so

684
00:25:21,669 --> 00:25:20,000
they need to take eric's information

685
00:25:23,510 --> 00:25:21,679
they got everything they needed from him

686
00:25:25,190 --> 00:25:23,520
and now they need to go look and decide

687
00:25:26,789 --> 00:25:25,200
if they do find the crash retrieval

688
00:25:30,549 --> 00:25:26,799
program which

689
00:25:33,110 --> 00:25:30,559
i believe they have on good source

690
00:25:35,669 --> 00:25:33,120
my information they have found the crash

691
00:25:37,269 --> 00:25:35,679
retrieval program um but

692
00:25:38,870 --> 00:25:37,279
what they do with it how they get that

693
00:25:41,350 --> 00:25:38,880
information out to us i don't know

694
00:25:44,630 --> 00:25:41,360
that's up to the to the new office the

695
00:25:47,190 --> 00:25:44,640
new ufo you the new ufo office that's up

696
00:25:49,029 --> 00:25:47,200
to congress and i hope we get to hear

697
00:25:50,390 --> 00:25:49,039
some of it i know

698
00:25:51,830 --> 00:25:50,400
you know we're not going to hear the

699
00:25:53,590 --> 00:25:51,840
whole thing you know we don't want to

700
00:25:55,909 --> 00:25:53,600
you know tell our enemies

701
00:25:57,830 --> 00:25:55,919
if we tell our friends or if we tell us

702
00:25:59,269 --> 00:25:57,840
you know the american public so i

703
00:26:00,710 --> 00:25:59,279
understand that but

704
00:26:02,470 --> 00:26:00,720
the fact that we're not alone and we

705
00:26:04,789 --> 00:26:02,480
have a craft and we have bodies

706
00:26:06,230 --> 00:26:04,799
allegedly that information if true needs

707
00:26:08,149 --> 00:26:06,240
to come out

708
00:26:09,430 --> 00:26:08,159
so i will i will try to do short updates

709
00:26:11,029 --> 00:26:09,440
like that and i'll be on camera for

710
00:26:13,909 --> 00:26:11,039
those

711
00:26:17,590 --> 00:26:13,919
and hopefully you guys enjoyed the story

712
00:26:19,190 --> 00:26:17,600
and like i said any questions about this

713
00:26:20,390 --> 00:26:19,200
tune in sunday

714
00:26:22,710 --> 00:26:20,400
i think it's

715
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4 p.m central if i'm remembering but

716
00:26:25,750 --> 00:26:24,400
i'll be on twitter and i'll make a

717
00:26:27,510 --> 00:26:25,760
graphic tomorrow

718
00:26:29,269 --> 00:26:27,520
you guys can see on youtube the timing

719
00:26:31,510 --> 00:26:29,279
and everything should be a really good

720
00:26:33,990 --> 00:26:31,520
show chase knows a lot of stuff about a

721
00:26:35,590 --> 00:26:34,000
lot of things an experience there some

722
00:26:37,430 --> 00:26:35,600
really good sightings and michael had

723
00:26:39,350 --> 00:26:37,440
his sighting in the

724
00:26:41,269 --> 00:26:39,360
uh persian gulf i think it was 92 so

725
00:26:43,669 --> 00:26:41,279
they can compare notes

726
00:26:46,549 --> 00:26:43,679
talk about some louis zondo stuff

727
00:26:48,549 --> 00:26:46,559
chase went to ttsa back in the day some

728
00:26:50,310 --> 00:26:48,559
really interesting stuff i had a nice

729
00:26:51,990 --> 00:26:50,320
video chat with him the other day so

730
00:26:54,070 --> 00:26:52,000
anyway all right hopefully you guys have

731
00:26:55,510 --> 00:26:54,080
a good night or a good day if it's